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Help with fruit trees and bushes

Post by Deryn on Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:09 pm

I'm hoping someone can come my rescue and advise me on what I need to do. We have a big problem with our fruit. Apples, blackcurrants, gooseberries, raspberries to name a few. They all seem to be dying. The leaves start to look frost bitten, as in all black on the ends and it just seems to be spreading really quick.

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Post by Monst on Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:09 am

not being sarcastic, but could it be the weather and time of year Wink
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Post by Deryn on Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:30 pm

Hi Monst, they have been gradually getting worse all year not just all of a sudden now, just not sure how to stop it spreading. The wood is dying too.

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Post by Monst on Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:55 pm

we had the same problem with our quince trees, I sorted it in the end though, I cut them down. Our main cherry tree always seems to start getting black leaves from around mid summer onwards, not sure what it is, but we still get fruit though. So sorry, cant help you.
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Post by wayland on Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:09 am

We have had a similar problem. I should have been more selective when planting my Orchard. I just planted the trees that I liked and not what liked Ireland. As your problem seems to be across the board and not just trees is a bit of a worry. This summer has not been typical and after having a long dry period to be followed by warmish damp autumn fungal spoors abound. If the wood is dying then I would think "Honey Fungus" perhaps. If you dig around the base of an affected tree you may find black threadlike growths which is a sure indication that HF is the culprit. As a precaution I would remove all dead material and burn it. Have you "Googled" the problem? Good luck.
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Post by Deryn on Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:18 pm

Have come to the decision that it is scab. Think it must have been on the property a long time from research to actually kill the trees. We have only been here 2 years and have noticed it getting worse by the year. Guess its a case of starting again which is a shame as they are mature trees. :c.
Will definitely make sure they are resistant varieties. In my research did you know that diluted urine kills fungal diseases on fruit bushes.

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Post by wayland on Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:54 pm

I take your point Deryn but I have never seen "Scab" on fruit bushes. We have scab on our trees and I cut out the bad bits. The trees seem to put up with a certain amount.
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Post by Carlarua on Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:17 pm

Did you have to cut them down in the end, Deryn ?

I had to cut down our fruit trees last spring. They were planted 8-9 years ago and never thrived, and started getting curled up blackened leaves and had very few blossoms and 1 or 2 measly apples. The pear and plum trees never bore any fruit at all.
There was an awful lot of gravel in the soil, I presume the earth was just too compacted and dense for the trees to spread their roots properly.
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Post by Deryn on Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:06 pm

Have cut down the blackcurrants and gooseberries to ground level to see what happens but not sure about apple trees. The plum has gone too along with the pear. A bit unsure as to whether planting fresh ones will be a good idea as don't want them to catch what ever it is.
Any suggestions? Would planting them the other side of the field work as really would like to replace them?

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Post by wayland on Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:01 am

I cant seem to grow Pears here. I know they take a time to produce fruit but my trees were planted eight years ago and have struggled all this time. They have not grown much at all. I have in fact given up with them.
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Re: Help with fruit trees and bushes

Post by Sean Ph'lib on Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:22 pm

There are very few ailments of fruit trees which cannot be cured by a generous -and by " generous" I mean something in the region of a clamped wheelbarrow-full
- application of good (and I stress "good ") garden compost. Most ailments are caused by mineral deficiencies and good compost remedies most of them. Apple scab is spread primarily through airborne spores and my remedy is to grow resistant varieties and graft over susceptible trees to those resistant varieties. I have never encountered diseases on soft fruit, but I do mulch very heavily every year with garden compost and attribute the health of my bushes to that.

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Post by Deryn on Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:20 pm

Thanks for the tip Sean. I do give them all a pretty good covering but maybe not enough. Will try and give them more when weather allows

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